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Sir Rhys Ap-Thomas

Male 1449 - 1525  (76 years)

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  • Name Sir Rhys Ap-Thomas 
    Prefix Sir 
    Born 1449  Maenordeilo, Cantref, Carmarthenshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Died 5 Dec 1525  Friary, Carmarthenshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Buried Carmarthen, Carmarthenshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I3718  Ramage | Rice Lines
    Last Modified 23 Jul 2018 

    Father Thomas ap Gruffudd ap Nicolas,   b. 1426, Carmarthenshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1474  (Age 48 years) 
    Relationship Birth 
    Mother Elisabeth DeBourgogne,   b. 1430, Dijon, Cote d'Or, Bourgogne, France Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1514, Newton, Carmarthenshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 84 years) 
    Relationship Birth 
    Married Between 1420 and 1448 
    Family ID F1274  Group Sheet

    Family Eve Ap-Gwilliam,   b. Between 1435 and 1457,   d. Between 1478 and 1544  (Age ~ 43 years) 
    Married Between 1460 and 1478 
    +1. Sir Griffith Rice,   b. Abt 1475, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Between 1504 and 1566  (Age ~ 29 years)
    Last Modified 28 Mar 2011 
    Family ID F1273  Group Sheet

  • Documents
    coat of arms
    coat of arms
    includes the order of the garter

  • Notes 
    • RHYS ap THOMAS , Sir ( 1449 - 1525 ), the chief Welsh supporter of Henry VII ,
      was the third son of Thomas ap Gruffudd ap Nicolas . His grandfather, Gruffudd ap Nicolas (q.v.) , had in 1440 leased the lordship of Dinefwr for a period of sixty years and thus laid the foundation of the family fortunes. His father, Thomas ap Gruffudd , had strengthened the position of the family by his marriage to Elizabeth , daughter and heiress of Sir John Gruffydd of Abermarlais , who could claim descent from the Welsh princes. As a lad he spent some time abroad with his father at the court of Burgundy , returning about 1467 . On the death of his father, who had been predeceased by his two elder sons, Rhys ap Thomas succeeded to the estate. The family tradition had been Lancastrian , but in the circumstances of the time caution was necessary. In the reign of Edward IV , Rhys organized a local military force in his support, but after the accession of Richard III he got into touch with Henry Tudor who was then an exile in Brittany . There is little doubt that he promised to assist him and that, when Henry landed at Milford Haven , he used his great influence in his favour, though the story that he salved his conscience by allowing Henry to cross over his body while he crouched under Mullock Bridge , near Dale , must be taken as legendary. He joined the invading force near Welshpool with levies raised in the vale of Towy and was knighted for his services on the field of Bosworth ( 22 Aug. 1485 ). In Nov. of the same year he received other tokens of royal favour. He was granted the offices of constable and steward of the lordship of Brecknock , chamberlain of the counties of Carmarthen and Cardigan , and steward of the lordship of Builth . He thus held the chief appointments which were in the gift of the king in South Wales . Sir Rhys continued active in the support of the new dynasty. He was in command of a troop of horse at the battle of Stoke ( 16 June 1487 ) when the pretender Lambert Simnel was defeated and captured, and he took part in the expedition against Boulogne in Oct. 1492 . At the battle of Blackheath ( 17 June 1497 ) he took the leader, lord Audeley , prisoner, and was created a knight-banneret . He was present at the surrender of Perkin Warbeck at Beaulieu Abbey in Sept. 1497 . For these and other services he was made Knight of the Garter on 22 April 1505 . He continued in favour after the accession of Henry VIII and took part in that king 's invasion of France in 1513 . His later years he spent at Carew castle which the owner had mortgaged to him. It was there that he held a great tournament to celebrate his admission to the Order of the Garter and to which he invited representatives of the leading families from all parts of Wales . He also made extensive alterations to the castle, building the gate-house and inserting windows.
      Sir Rhys ap Thomas m. (1) Eva , daughter of Henri ap Gwilym of Cwrt Henri , and (2) Janet , daughter of Thomas Mathew of Radyr , who was widow of Thomas Stradling of S. Donats . He d. in 1525 and was buried in Greyfriars church , Carmarthen . His body was later removed to S. Peters church ; the tomb there was restored in 1865 . His widow d. at Picton castle in 1535 and was also buried in Greyfriars church . His estates, though not his offices, passed to his grandson, Sir Rhys ap Gruffydd , who, in 1531 , forfeited them and his life for alleged conspiracy (see further the article on the Rice family) .

      There are many references to Sir Rhys in the Tudor chronicles and in Francis Bacon 's Bacon's history of the reign of King Henry VII with notes (Cambridge, 1888) .
      A detailed biography written in the early 17th cent, is printed in the Cambrian Register (1795?1818) , 1796 , i, and there are long excerpts from it in Richard Fenton 's A Historical Tour through Pembrokeshire , 1811 . This biography, the author of which is unknown [but see article Rice family], contains much that must be taken with some reserve.